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willmatthews10 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
Mr Clegg is the best and greatest candidate! I will be in the cell next to him if we have to get the bloody things.
MrPragmatism (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
DanielDoylem: That is just the tip of the iceberg. Of course naive people like yourself who know no better would be more then happy to give your Iris scans, DNA, fingerprints and all past history to ensure your safety because after all "If you're not breaking the law then you have nothing to worry about"!!! Well its not as if DNA, fingerprints etc are conclusive are they? Mistakes have never been made? They have never lost our data..or have they? Seems like your living in fantasy land.
MrPragmatism (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
Daniel please do some research before you start to comment on this: Detective Chief Inspector Mike Neville head of Scotland Yards Visual Images Identifications said cameras do not act as a deterrent.Det Ch Insp Neville said only 3 per cent of London's street robberies had been solved using CCTV images. "Billions of pounds has been spent on kit, but no thought has gone into how the police are going to use the images and how they will be used in court. It's been an utter fiasco"
danieldoylem (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
Makes me laugh that you're using the word fact so liberally, post some reliable sources and then we can discuss this.
MrPragmatism (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
Daniel dont use the old "If you're not breaking the law then you have nothing to worry about" because it is bull.Fact is CCTV does not and will not deter crime and more then often the criminals are not identifiable as i have said previously a hood and half of the face covered and CCTV is useless and cannot be used in a court of law so it amazes me that the small percentage still want CCTV even though it has been proven to be a waste of taxpayers £££.You're the one missing the point my friend.
EvilMuppet1979 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
I'm slightly right of centre, but even I would vote for the Lib Dems if the other parties do not abandon their reckless and authoritarian views. I guess I'll join you in prison Mr Clegg, because I will not have one either.
THEENERGYNIPPLES (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
if anyone disappears call a taxi .. they're there in 10 minutes and they would do about as much as the police ...
danieldoylem (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
If you're not breaking the law then you have nothing to worry about.You're missing a big point here, and that's the fact that CCTV is operated by people. They aren't in their offices watching us go about our lives, they're looking for things out of the ordinary, and to be honest, I don't have an issue with a camera watching me - watch me all day long if they like, I don't feel as if I have "surrendered" my privacy, because remember, in a public space you have no privacy in the first place.
willymacbride (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
(cont)I have a close friend who's a cop in Chester-Le-Street (CLS). Now CLS is covered in CCTV, well the town centre is anyway. Criminals don't even do into the centre because of this. The only prob is they target the houses. Now nearby at the coast, forgot the towns name, there is NO CCTV in the town centre and the commercial burglarys are just as common as dwellings.Now im not saying its the answer, but those figures show a difference between the 2.
willymacbride (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
No Mr Prag, it's not got anything to do with terrorism now. What i'm trying to say is i would gladly be monitored if one day it would prevent my son being taken. I'm not saying i totally agree with CCTV flooding, but it's a small price (for me anyway, i have nothing to hide lol).I know all about the wars mate, i've been in most of them in some way or another.(cont) |
